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Originally Posted by javadog
I don’t think it has been adequately studied, but given the increasing number of breakthrough cases and the high viral loads and transmissibility that were seeing, I wouldn’t bet against it.
I recall them telling us that the vaccine would be highly effective at preventing infection in the vaccinated people and that the vaccines will prevent the vaccinated from infecting the unvaccinated. Both of those turned out to be dead wrong. In fact, I am starting to form the opinion that the vaccinated population will see more infections than the unvaccinated population. That seems to be the case in many highly vaccinated countries. In that case, I’ll almost guarantee that ADE plays a role.
The last standing claim for the vaccines is that vaccinated people will have fewer and less problematic symptoms from an infection. Given that the Delta variant is probably behind a significant number, if not most of, the new infections and that it’s less virulent anyway, I’m not sure the vaccine has anything to do with it.
It’s early days, but I think these vaccines are going to turn out to be a big bust.
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The new variants changed effectiveness. They were correct in regards to the original strain. The new strains, not so much.