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Originally Posted by Tervuren
I don't hate electric cars.
I just dislike the false narratives around them.
I used to race electric RC in an open gas/electric monster truck class.
As for the "what the horse and buggy folk said" argument, well, I'm not sure there were calls to ban horses in just a few years despite not having infrastructure to supply cars.
And a second point on that, is that eletric cars used to outnumber gasoline cars by a significant margin.
Probably a forgotten history, oh well.
Then along came a few inventions that popped gasoline into the lead.
What I object to is the forcing.
People do want better and if you force suboptimal it has long term costs.
The best scenario is to let electric cars develop as a luxury item for those with the passion.
They have the resources, and will make it happen.
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Perfectly put.. Also the pricing...
I've had 2 E-Golfs. Wonderful tools for the price. I'd love a Taycan or Audi Etron GT but $140K ? Are you joking ? And forcing this with an electrical grid that cannot handle today's needs (and nuclear plants being shutdown, presumably to be replaced by unicorn fart plants), probably not clever.. I can see at least in Cali a big fire where power was cut prior (as a voluntary shutdown) or during, and people with electric cars who cannot recharge and leave.. O the lawsuits...
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Originally Posted by 1990C4S
How are EV's being forced on anyone?
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Government edicts have resulted in most manufacturers stoppiing development and research on the ICE - hah, ICE on ice, and a lot of developed countries have a 2030-35 mandates to not make gas cars anymore, a lot of big cities will be banned to gasoline cars earlier than that. They may not force it on you today, but it's the same idea as California SMOG standards forcing the hands of manufacturers all over the US. You wanna sell everywhere ? you abide by the most stringent standard. It IS happening. The question is how long will gas be legal... I fear for my classics, on one hand they might retain value as fun toys from a bygone era, on the other all it takes one motivated politician and the stroke of a pen and they are banned ("they're coming for my car!!!" might happen before the gun thing ;-) I have hopes that the USA with its "particular" freedom culture and geographical imperatives will resist longer. Probably not California though.