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Originally Posted by aschen
I mean why believe some anecdotes from staff. Did they or you compile statistics with any rigor? Why believe the news? I agree there. Yet there is a ton of actual compiled data that says the vaccine is remarkably effective at keeping people out of the hospital. Been posted again and again in the various threads.
My anecdotes, have about a dozen friends and family that are Drs. They all say overwhelming majority of those hospitalized for c19 are unvaccinated. My brother in law who is a pulmonologist, whos prime job is taking care of c19 patients, says you would have to basically be insane not to get vaccinated at this point (at least for the vast majority of people). Hey just another anecdote of what some guy said though
Also as more people get vaccinated we are getting closer to the base rate fallacy Bayesian trap of statistics. If 100% are vaccinated a 100% of those hospitalized will be vaccinated. Statistics from US in aggregate were interesting because they are straightforward to interpret with near 50% vax rate.
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My wife had a coworker tell her that over 50% of the staff at our local hospital refuses to get vaccinated because they think it’s dangerous. Mind you, his wife is a nurse at said hospital. So I called my good friend who’s wife is the head of anesthesia at the hospital to see if I could confirm this claim. When he asked her she took the phone to tell me that first and foremost this is a blatant lie. Over 90% of all the staff is vaccinated while over 95% of the people clogging the beds and filling the ICU are unvaccinated. She wanted to know this nurses name but I wouldn’t give it to her. The point of my story is that people like island and his ilk don’t want to see the numbers when they don’t fit their narrative. There will never be a chart that they believe unless it supports their nut job theories.