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You inferred. I did not imply.
I will posit that the population density is far greater in Israel across the entire country. Sweden may have areas of density, and then areas of vacancy. Tell me areas of vacancy between areas of density doesn't matter in a pandemic. If people were trees, all of Israel would be on fire. Sweden would have a much easier time putting out the hot spots.

For cultural differences, see Livi's comments on this subject early on. I'm not talking about educational or economic demographics. I'm talking about the way people interact with each other socially in Sweden v. Israel. Something as simple as the differences in the perception of what constitutes "personal space".

My only point, really, is that the chart you posted doesn't really add to the discussion. It is illustrative of 3 points, masks, cases, and timing. There could be a thousand different reasons for the peaks and valleys.

Case in point, Israel reached 60% vaccination in April 2021, right about where the chart flattens. Once could say that vaccines had a positive effect on case counts. One could also say, if that were the case, the vaccine is only good for about 4 months. Maybe that is the reality and we're just on the edge of learning that. Maybe it was the weather.

The only reason I chose to comment (and if you look at my stats, you'll see my comments are rare in the last 20 years) is a growing frustration with isolated data being posted on this subject to advance a position when I'm certain the person doing so (not just you Jeff) is fully aware their data is not conclusive of their point.

I also thought this thread was effectively put to bed on about page 3 when Sweden was (jokingly) compared to Wyoming - illustrating that comparing Sweden to another country to establish any sort of point is a fools errand.
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