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No need to PARF this up with making liberals the enemy. You do yourself a discredit by making this political.

I looked at your link above and it seems to be taking its data from here:

https://assets.publishing.service.gov.uk/government/uploads/system/uploads/attachment_data/file/1016465/Vaccine_surveillance_report_-_week_36.pdf

Did you read the text in that link? I briefly scanned it and don't see anything that supports Karl Denninger's conclusions. It seems like he's applying his own wild conclusions. In the text I see a lot of this kind of discussion:

Vaccine effectiveness
Several studies of vaccine effectiveness have been conducted in the UK which indicate
that a single dose of either vaccine is between 55 and 70% effective against
symptomatic disease, with higher levels of protection against severe disease including
hospitalisation and death. Additional protection is seen after a second dose. There is
now also evidence from a number of studies that the vaccines are effective at protecting
against infection and transmission.


The latest estimates indicate that the vaccination programme has directly averted over
143,600 hospitalisations. Analysis on the direct and indirect impact of the vaccination
programme on infections and mortality, suggests the vaccination programme has
prevented between 24.4 and 24.9 million infections and between 108,600 and 116,200
deaths.


Effectiveness against mortality
Data is also emerging which suggests high levels of protection against mortality. Studies
linking community COVID-19 testing data, vaccination data and mortality data indicate
that both the Pfizer-BioNTech and Oxford-AstraZeneca vaccines are around 70 to 85%
effective at preventing death with COVID-19 after a single dose (3, 12). Vaccine
effectiveness against mortality with 2 doses of the Pfizer vaccine is around 95 to 99%
and with 2 doses of the AstraZeneca vaccine around 75 to 99% (week 26 Vaccine
Surveillance Report).


Please cite the doomsday conclusions from the source material that Karl Denninger is coming up with. Maybe it's there- I have limited time to spend on this right now, but I doubt it.
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