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My older brother spent six years aboard the USS Pollack, a Permit class nuclear fast attack submarine, in the late 1970's - early 1980's. He has remained somewhat a student of the submarine in his post Navy life.
In short, in each and every "war game" played with either our own Navy or with our allies' Navies, the submarines never lost. Never "lost" a boat, never "suffered" any "damage". Ever.
Submariners' favorite saying is that "there are two kinds of ships in the Navy - submarines and targets". It really was (and he tells me it still is) that lopsided.
The Permit class (all now retired) carried nuclear tipped torpedoes. All they had to do was to put one in the middle of your battle group - just one. All that remains is a big boiling bubble in the ocean where your fleet used to be...
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Jeff
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