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Originally Posted by john70t
I see that article back-pedaling and trying to "re-explain" the authors findings by the presiding powers. Oh and like posters here they emphasize the need to "combat misinformation on the internet by conspiracy theorists". That doesn't sound like the scientific method to me. More like the accusers of Copernicus. The scientific method should put all the information on the table and allow all the different interpretations equally. And that is not happening.
Are there more deaths each year? Obviously. There is a rapidly growing population due to changes in immigration, natural growth, baby boomers reaching maturity, and lack of health care due to expense and other factors. Obesity from our poor diets and generational habits, the artificial expense of diabetes drugs, stress-induced alcoholism, suicides, crime, and other social factors have all resulted from complete shutdowns of the economy and loss of careers as a result of the government's response to a new strain of influenza, and their opportunistic attempts to create a centralized authoritarian state of dependency and control. It might be argued using the proverbial "the cure is worse than the cause". So many other medical patients have died from lack of access or just being denied care as hospitals shut down while receiving even more governmental funding. I feel sorry for anyone who believes the medical/government authorities have acted responsibly or rationally or consistently through this entire mess deliberately created. It has ruined many lives and they should be held accountable.
Can Covid be deadly? I don't think anyone here including myself has argued otherwise. All flues can be deadly but other significant epidemics have gone virtually unnoticed in recent years under different leadership. Why is that? Personally I had some sort very nasty flu or incident about a year ago and experienced it first hand. In almost all instances Covid affects the compromised and elderly. But instead of intelligent planning which informs and protects the public while keeping the economy viable there is completely chaotic over-reach while other factors deliberately spread the virus. Putting Covid patients in nursing homes? Open borders after cramming immigrants together for weeks/months and no vax. Exceptions for select political groups? Really? Ignorance as an excuse would be farcical at this point. At least three different types of vaccines from how many different sources distributed randomly is not scientific at all. And it just keeps getting worse as if the same institutions are incapable of doing their highly-paid jobs or even learning.
You are picking one item out of an extended list of everything wrong and focus great attention to that one subject as if all others must surely be equally wrong by default. The most blatant and obtuse subject remain ignored meanwhile. That is a cheap internet technique we have all seen too many times to fall for. It really fools nobody.
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The article from the JH student newspaper was bunk. Pure misinformation. None of these 3 statements from the article were correct. I showed the actual 2020 numbers.
"Significant decrease in deaths due to heart disease "
"this sudden decline in deaths is observed for all other causes"
"All of this points to no evidence that COVID-19 created any excess deaths. Total death numbers are not above normal death numbers"
You also completely misunderstood the the covid test accuracy. It has been explained to you multiple times. The covid test only shows positive for covid. It does not show positive for the flu. The multiplex test will show two results, positive or negative for the flu or covid. Prior to the multiplex test two tests were required, one for the flu and one for covid. There are multiple sources that explain it fully.
https://www.nebraskamed.com/COVID/pcr-test-recall-can-the-test-tell-the-difference-between-covid-19-and-the-flu
https://healthfeedback.org/claimreview/eua-withdrawal-for-cdc-covid-19-pcr-test-is-due-to-the-development-of-newer-tests-that-help-save-time-and-resources-not-because-the-test-is-faulty/
The lack of a world wide flu season is not as clear cut as the prior 2 pieces of misinformation. Though science can be used to explain the anomaly. And it isn't because of a faulty test. This has also been explained multiple times. Covid spreads far more easily than the flu. Social distancing, limited in class school, worldwide travel reduction, masking, better hygiene, increased flu vaccinations, etc all took the R0 value of the flu from about a 2 to below 1. Below an R1 it quickly dies out. Those same restrictions took Covid from a R3/4 to about a 2. At an R2 covid cases could still grow. Initially, we had no vaccine for covid so we had no head start on slowing the spread like we do with the flu vaccine. The Delta variant spreads even far more easily, an R5 or R6. It also evaded the new covid vaccines at causing infection, though deaths and hospitalizations are still vastly reduced.
There are many sources.
https://www.healthline.com/health-news/why-the-flu-season-basically-disappeared-this-year#School-and-office-closures-led-to-a-drop-in-transmission
https://www.cdc.gov/flu/season/faq-flu-season-2020-2021.htm