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Originally Posted by fintstone

Yep. I always go to neutral on a stick at a red light...then watch the other lights (perpendicular to me) to turn yellow to put it back in gear.

Exactly. I watch the other lights or if they are shrouded and there are crosswalk lights, I'll watch those. It doesn't take that long to put a car in gear and head out if you're paying attention even if you aren't watching the lights for the cross-street.