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It's a few years old in technology but a good primer to watch:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/lanceeliot/2019/10/21/novas-look-whos-driving-documentary-is-a-must-see-on-the-promises-and-perils-of-self-driving-cars/

It comes down to final liability for any accident.
1). Tesla calls it "autopilot" which is highly deceptive to the consumer.
For some reason that was not illegal but should have been.
Musk called it an aviation term with complete consumer ignorance of the definition...which of course is entirely relevant to pedestrian streets.
(The Columbo in me would want just a few more questions as to airplanes self-parking in the sky.)
He is half right in subtly blaming the consumer though.

2). Tesla is a fairly good Level 2 driver-assist platform.
https://www.synopsys.com/automotive/autonomous-driving-levels.html
It is designed to synch with moving traffic/foot patterns...
Not in avoiding stopped vehicles, obstacles, and tank sized potholes...
Several fatal crashes involved a semi pulling across the road ahead.
More than a few cop cars and ambulances have been pegged at high speeds.

3). The vehicle function should not be able to operate without a driver with one hand on the wheel.
It should let the driver know it's turning off.

4). The vehicle function should not be able to operate under certain conditions such as sleet rain, in the middle of random heavy pedestrian traffic etc etc where sensors are compromised and software in incomplete. Every autonomous vehicle is only as good as it's total awareness, programming, and immediate conditions.

What is not disclosed from the very beginning are the capabilities and limitations. There should be a NHTS training course..along with some kind of standardized educational brochure..and a warning for accepting liability...for every purchaser of every semi-autonomous vehicle. That should have been pounded into the brains of every consumer. Where were the feds to protect us all?

Another question you should ask yourself is "Why are the feds even allowing companies to run experimental vehicles on public streets?"
Tesla was running an auto retrieve program where the car would drive itself to the front of the store from the parking lot. I believe a few people were hit. Seriously they let this happen? This belongs in the GMAFB category. Many functions should have remained in the data-sourcing stages until 100% accuracy was confirmed.
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