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Winchester Model 97 Trench Gun, part of the arsenal of US forces in World War 1. The weapon was so deadly that the German complained that it was “inhumane” — the same Germans that brought to the war poison gas and the flame thrower. Holding 6 rounds, each 2-3/4 inch round contained nine 00 (double-aught) buckshot pellets, each with a diameter of 8.4mm (.33 inch). Using “slamfire” — holding the trigger down so the shotgun fired with each pump — a trained soldier could pump out 54 buckshot in about 2 seconds, deadly out to 50 yards. The weapon became known as a trench broom or sweeper.
Due to the use of paper cartridges (which would swell in the damp conditions of the trenches and jam in the weapon) few, if any, Model 97s were actually used in combat. The American forces still had them in their arsenal, despite German protests and even a German declaration that any soldier found using one, or even carrying its ammunition, would be executed. The Americans countered that any German caught with a flamethrower or a sawtooth bayonet would be executed. There is no record of any German or American POWs executed for theses reasons.



USAAF Boeing B-17 Bomber 42-29993 “Carroll Jun” with the 369 Bomb Squadron / 306 Bomb Group ( The Reich Wreckers ) in flight sometime in 1943, note one prop is feathered
On January 11, 1944 42-29993 was shot down during a mission to Halberstadt Germany, crashing near Diepenveen Netherlands.
Nine of the Crew were KIA with one POW;
Pilot Don Tattershall, Co-pilot Bill Grisham, Navigator Jim Crabtree, Bombardier John Whittle, Flight engineer/top turret gunner Leroy Johnson, Ball turret gunner Carmel Melita, Waist gunner Elmer Sweitzer, Waist gunner Bob Hogg, and Tail gunner Bill Dodson were KIA.
Radio Operator Jim Hobbs was taken Prisoner.
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1972-1975 VW Brazilian (only) Karmann Ghia TC (aka Type 145)
Wasn't exported outside of South America
Approximately 18,000 made
VW Brazil designed their own cars and had some unique sports cars.
Hat-Tip David Shawn Jarrell & Bill Jenner


Salina, Colorado peaked at around 350 residents, however the mines of Gold Run Gulch kept the town active for many decades. At least three stamp mills were built here. Located approximately 10 miles west of Boulder, the town still has a small population and intact historical structures.
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