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Originally Posted by rfuerst911sc

We could probably come up with thousands of reasons for this type of behavior. Some valid some less so . Bottom line is you either want to be a positive influence to society or you don't . You decide to be law abiding or you don't . You get an education or you don't . You get a job or you don't. Yes maybe this is over simplified but I feel it is the truth .

In my humble old white guy opinion the black community has to pull itself out of the gutter. Black leaders/teachers/actors/athletes/business professionals have got to stand united as a positive influence. And they have to strongly denounce this type of behavior.

More $$$ , more social programs , more handouts is not the answer . Defunding the police is not the answer . Violent protest is not the answer. Bottom line is if you decide to act against society and it's laws you end up in jail or prison . That is the same rule for all races . I am sure I will be flamed as racist .

There are folks that will say that even if they want out, they can't get out because they are being held down/back. I have no doubt that the low-income culture (regardless of the ethnicity of the people in it) perpetuates itself. And the people that have what it takes to get themselves out are few and far between.

Originally Posted by Seahawk

Fortunately, numbers (science, remember) are not racist.

This website has some very interesting analysis and trends. The numbers are presented in a straight forward manner.

https://comparecamp.com/black-crime-statistics/

Peruse before you abuse the data sets.

I know, like any other sentient being, what is wrong.

A lot of folks would argue. Statisticians can make the numbers say what they want and I even believe that it's possible that if you've got a result in mind, you can get to that result without consciously trying jut because of your preconceived ideas. I also believe that it's possible and should be the case that math/numbers are unbiased.

THere's a reason why ever truck commercial says that truck X has the most powerful motor in it's class. Is is the most powerful standard motor or the most powerful optional motor? Is it the most powerful because of torque, hp or towing capacity? etc...

Obviously, those are stats where they are trying to make things sound a certain way for marketing.

I'm not left or liberal, but numbers can be distorted to make the desired point.

We had a discussion a while back that had some interesting points and videos. It was about car jacking, I believe. In the video, there was a guy that was able to go into the hood and talk to car jackers. Someone in the video blamed car jacking on the car manufacturers. Several other folks HAD to steal cars to have a roof and food over their heads because they couldn't get a job because they were an ex-con.

THere was a lot of "It's not my fault. It's someone else's fault. I HAVE to do what I'm doing."