[Cloggie]

I don't come here all that often, but this thread caught my attention.

In a nutshell, I am totally unsurprised by where our collective societies are going.

We have undermined and totally discredited any of the moral constructs (call it the Judea-Christian culture if you will), that rewarded hard work, honest and virtuous behaviour even when no one was looking.

We considered children for what they were, immature people who needed to protected, guided, led and at times, disciplined into productive adults who at some level need to "fit in" or at least know what is the range of acceptable behaviours and know that their rights to do things end where they impinge on the rights of others. Now we are afraid of our own children, refuse to believe that they are anything but angels, refuse to set limits and live in terror that social services will remove them.

We perpetually and collectively demand the converse of rights meaning - freedom of speech does not mean anyone has to listen to you and in fact your freedom of speech gives you the right to argue, ridicule and challenge up the limits of slander/libel.

Your freedom of association does in no way require me to be in your presence or allow you to be in mine....I can ignore you, slam the door in your face and not attend your little gathering. My choice

Your freedom of belief does not require mt to even acknowledge it as valid, much less support it and even much more, when coupled with my freedom of speech, allows me to challenge, criticize and debate to my hearts content, right up to the limit that I plausibly foment physical violence on you.

We have systematically undermined our national identities, torn down our institutions with wokes and activists within, slagged our history and the reputations of the people who built the country out of adversity and belief to the point where people look at their past as something to be embarrassed about.

Our media is useless, promoting narratives that feed elitist mindsets, avoiding any sort of balance, any sort of investigative reporting on narratives that fit the Orwellian mindsets.

...is it a surprise?

We let it happen, look at the mirror for the person at fault.

I do.

D.