[Jeff Higgins]

I would expect anyone (any actor or actress in the case under discussion), to be adequately trained in the operation and use of any firearm of which they assume possession. If they are unwilling to undergo the training necessary to do so, then find someone else who is willing to take that training.

Firearms are not rocket science. As stated many times earlier in this discussion, I can train anyone in the use of any firearm with pretty minimal effort. They are simple devices. If they can manipulate their smart phone, they can learn to safely handle any gun. These people have a lot of downtime, free time in which if their next shoot 'em up role was dependent upon doing so, they could very easily seek out and complete the necessary training. It would take less than a day of their time.

And no, no one here has "accepted the realities of movie/tv set gun handling until now." What a terribly inane statement. It assumes we were even aware of Hollywood movie set practices, which I'm quite sure most of us were not even aware of (I sure wasn't) until this incident brought them to light. I don't know any competent shooters, anyone even remotely familiar with firearms that would have "accepted the realities of movie/tv set gun handling until now". What sheer and utter nonsense.

Bottom line is, Mr. Baldwin was not responsible for the fact that he was handed a loaded gun while being told it was unloaded. Not his fault in the least. It was, however, entirely Mr. Baldwin's fault that that firearm remained loaded while he (with three very deliberate actions), first cocked the hammer, then pointed it at a living human being, then pulled the trigger. It would have taken literally two seconds to verify it was unloaded or, in this case, determine that it was loaded. And very, very minimal training to understand how to do that.

So, yes, we're back to page one. And back to our two camps arguing the same points - those who understand basic gun safety and those who do not. Those who do not will continue to make excuses for others who do not, for others that have "accidents" that kill people. Those who do will have none of it. Carry on...