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Originally Posted by Jeff Higgins View Post
Exactly. What earthly reason is there for a multi-billion dollar per year industry to have not done precisely this?

These prop guns would not even have to be fully manufactured from the ground up as such. Existing firearms could have just a few components swapped for slightly altered parts that would render them non-functional.

For example, no more than the barrel would need to be substituted in most pistols, rifles, and carbines. The "movie" barrel would have a chamber just slightly too short, so it could not accept the "real" version of whatever caliber it mimics. The bore would be far too small to allow a bullet of the caliber represented to pass through it, being rebated at the muzzle to look real from the front. Revolvers would require barrel and cylinder replacement.

Ammunition could even be manufactured for the most part on existing equipment. It's easy enough to produce dies for existing equipment that produces shorter ammunition. "Bullets" could be any of a myriad of materials, all meant to just powder upon detonation of the powder charge, yet look very "real" on camera.

None of this would be difficult. None of this would be "expensive" in movie industry terms. Yet I bet none of this ever happens, nor anything at all like it. And I bet that, someday, this happens again.
First thing, you have 3 deaths in over one hundred years of filmmaking and hundreds of thousands of rounds fired. Not a bad percentage compared to other industries.

Also, these things are already and have been happening for years. I posted a video awhile back in this thread covering some of the modifications done to film guns.

When filming in confined or indoor spaces with semi auto guns you don’t want to use full blank loads. You use quarter loads but then you come across the problem of not enough pressure to cycle the firearm. That’s where you have duplicate guns made specifically to cycle different loads.

These are all available to any legitimate
Production company that is willing to spend the money and practice safety first. Unfortunately Rust wasn’t such a company. My friend said when he interviewed for Rust he could tell they were low budget. When he mentioned renting the guns from Hollywood they showed him a locked closet filled with dusty and dirty guns and said “This is what you have here, make it work”.

That’s when he passed on the show and he’s mighty glad he did.
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