Have bought two everyday machines, Breville & Black & Decker, since my last thread a year ago looking to move on from a Technivorm Moccamaster that makes nice, but weak for me, coffee. Even experimented with trying to use it as a french press turning it on and off to no avail. Plugging the basket hole a little... nope. And don't leave it on with the carafe not on the warmer without a timer.
Starbucks is supposed to be releasing a home version of the Clover but I don't think that's coming out any time soon.
The original Clovers are semi-findable but pricey. I would spend the money if they were half this.
Clover 1s Coffee Maker
Have decided to get a super automatic. The Jura E8 is where I think I'm going. Saeco and Gaggie and Miele are also good names.
Reliability is a key issue. Assuming any of the 4 can make an awesome cup of coffee, anyone have experience with these brands? And specific models?