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Saeco and Gaggia used to be great machines.
Saeco and Gaggia are basically the same thing now that Phillips bought the names. They are NOT good coffee makers any more. I bought a Saeco 20 years ago and it was solid as a rock for years. Had some problems with it a couple of years ago and decided to replace it. I got a post-Phillips Saeco and the grinder would clog on ANY dark roast beans and many medium roasts. I called the tech at Wholelattelove and he confirmed - they are touchy about the beans you use and you CANNOT use dark roast beans in them. Even using medium roast beans the grinder would clog about every 10th cup of coffee.
I sold it and tried a Gaggia. Once I got it home I discovered that, other than styling and a few buttons on the front, the Gaggia was the same as the Saeco. Same crappy grinder and brew unit as the Saeco under the hood. I gave it away and got a Jura E6.
I've had the Jura for over a year and it is solid as a rock. It will make great coffee from any kind of beans. In retrospect I should have gotten an E8. I think it has the grounds bypass that the E6 lacks, and sometimes I like to do a one-off cup of coffee.
I love superautomatics, and if you want a reliable one - stay away from Phillip's brands.

https://www.clearlycoffee.com/why-you-should-avoid-oily-coffee-beans-with-super-automatic-espresso-machines/
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