[Overpaid Slacker]

I'm not sure whether to believe a lot of it or not - I'll stipulate that some terrible things were done, but I don't know how endemic it was, and Mr. Pacepa makes an interesting point about the contrivance and conveyance of information in general, using the Vietnam matter as an example from his personal experience. It likely happened that there was some (not "much") torture and the propagandists inflated it to biblical proportions; one or two real events leveraged into dozens or hundreds of stories. Pacepa admits to having done just this sort of thing on a global scale, for premeditated political destabilizing purposes -- so, though I don't know how many actual incidents occured, I believe that many if not most of the stories were fabricated.

I would like, as Pacepa recommends, to drill down and find who said these things, and if they were simply widely "known", or if there are people willing to stand up and be very specific in how they know. Believe it or not, this isn't to vilify Kerry, who probably believed what he was saying in his testimony (insert snide comment about his ability, nay propensity, to believe, or at least espouse, any number of conflicting viewpoints on matters, depending upon the day of the week).

JP