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Based on the type of software you listed i’m not surprised that you may have had a lesser experience vs the same suites on Windows.

It’s a byproduct of market size.

Macs were not traditionally used in certain spaces and as a result some suites where not available on the platform.

Some publishers will dip a tie in the water but their OSX version would generally be lacking. It’s natural, you’ll want to see how you fair in a market before expending resources.

It’s not the hardware because if you dual booted the box and ran the Windows versions of those suites the issues would go away. It’s not OSX because often there was a Mac suite that accomplished the same thing and was also stable. But users coming from a Windows environment had to contend with navigating the Mac environment and where not going to look for a new app to learn when they had become so proficient in what they were currently using.

Autodesk has a few cross platform products that i’ve used in both OSX and Windows and there is often noticeable deficiencies in parts of the Mac offering. For 3ds max there is only Windows. If i need to work in Maya I use a Mac. Fusion 360 is garbage on both but marginally better on Windows.

I think the old everything’s a nail when all you have is a hammer applies here.

I’m a Mac fanboy and it’s my personal platform of choice but i’m equally comfortable in OSX, Windows and Linux and will use the platform best suited for a particular task.
I didn't have a problem with 'apps', I'm a programmer. I really just needed a terminal that didn't piss me off and the laptop couldn't do that.

Osx is unix, it's got a great shell right there, boom first thing. My heart soared. But its not compatible enough with open source to be trustworthy. The compat issue was low level open source stuff that simply wouldn't run against osx. Unorthodox security stuff with half-assed workarounds I could try and use off github (and only partially worked.)

It was a bit frustrating that the machine learning packages couldn't run, again because what I want just works on linux and windows (rocm layer for cuda), but that wasn't essential, just felt strange that this device that is lauded and spec-capable ended up throwing so many barriers. Sure I can boot windows in a vm but... only virtual gpu access... and more latency. Clown show.

I totally agree, the specs for the macbook are fine, its a sweet gpu, better cpu than my own laptop, problem is something amiss in apple's drivers, especially video driver. I ended up having to periodically disable gpu acceleration for the web browser because of corruption on some large tables I needed to view.

Sure I think the ui is tedius and slow (a one button mouse?) but I hardly used it. I am still stunned by what an awful experience I had where I was actually expecting to be delighted.

The keyboard/mouse compat, thats again because the apple drivers didn't negotiate the right connections and fell back to some primitive standard that gave me keyboard lag and a slow polling mouse. Linux has zero issue because hardware is open and windows has drivers from the vendor. I bought different mouse and keyboard and they worked well (yay extra keyboards on my desk). Not having a separate keyboard was painful because I found the macbook keyboard to be remarkably bad to type on. Little hard square chicklets with no motion.

I'm certainly no uber fan of windows or linux but I thought the macbook was an extremely well advertised piece of crap. Literally no merits over the lenovo laptops which I actually LIKE. I've also preferred iphones for > a decade. I don't dislike apple just their desktop os really sucks. They've adopted another close box model and are screwing their users.

I spent six months tolerating that one device, waiting for its touch strip to start smoking it was so hot. Sure I've got 6 months of sample bias. I think Macbook is for people with an irrational love of apple or those who don't realize what ineptitude they're tolerating. My 80 year old mom has an ios laptop with a special apple compatible printer and she's fine with it, and I'm fine with that.

Anyway, I'm not bs-ing you and I honestly don't think apple computers are a sane buy for a serious user.
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