[lindbhr]

Im the oldest of 3 boys, and from time to time we'd act up and my dad would quadruple up a bull whip and paddle you. We always deserved what we got. Although it was effective I suppose, not nearly as much as when they used logic on us.

For example, I was in high school and generally not being very cooperative at home, no matter what the issue or opportunity especially toward my mom. Finally, my dad called me into his study and said my behavior needed to change or there would be consequences. I said what, "like sending me to military school? You've been saying that for years". Then my dad said, "you know I was raised in Tucson but was sent away to Austin (St. Edwards) for high school right"? He credited being sent away as the single more important event that shaped his life for the better. I felt myself going pale. I never gave then any trouble after that... I had a great relationship with my dad as I got older and he taught me so much.

Maybe some of you can relate?