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Originally Posted by masraum View Post
147gn 9mm flat nose FTW.
In my humble opinion (but utter lack of experience in this matter), the flat nose, or "truncated cone" bullet is hands down the very best for defensive use out of any autoloader. It "cuts" (like a paper punch) a hole, removing tissue, which results in massive hemorrhaging. A roundnose merely opens a hole (think punching hole in a piece of paper with a pencil), which closes back on itself, limiting bleeding.

This effect was learned by, and put to use by, the Germans in WWI. They came out with a truncated cone style bullet for their 9mm Luger sidearms. The affect was so much more lethal than the old roundnose bullet that the Allies quickly decreed that any German caught with that ammo would be summarily executed.

My own experience is, of course, in hunting big game with revolvers. I've touted their virtues here before, but I will say again that nothing kills better than the old Elmer Keith designed "semi-wadcutter". It is essentially that old truncated cone with a second sharp shoulder.

Here are a couple of examples. On the left are truncated cone bullets. Both weigh 300 grains. The one on the left is for the .45 Colt, the one on the right (with the gas check) for the .44 mag. On the right are Keith type semi wadcutters, again with the .45 Colt on the left and .44 mag on the right. Both weigh 250 grains. You can see the second sharp shoulder, on the front driving band ahead of the beveled crimping groove. These things penetrate like nothing else, cutting a very well defined hole along the way. Absolutely the deadliest handgun bullet I have ever used.



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Originally Posted by masraum View Post
Was the "not guilty" because it was self defense or because a Texas judge figured any Texan using 22 didn't really mean to hurt the guy that badly.

"You used a 22? I guess you were just tryin' ta warn him off, not hurt 'em and definitely not kill 'em or you'd ah used something startin' with a '4' or endin' with 'magnum'."
The late, great Col Jeff Cooper used to say "if you shoot someone with one of those sub caliber pistols and he ever finds out about it, he's going to be very angry with you. And you'll have nothing with which to defend yourself..."
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