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Originally Posted by Por_sha911 View Post
I wondered if they had a transfer bar.
Nope. Transfer bar guns (like the Rugers) are not commonly used for this. All of the extra stuff going on inside slows them down.

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Originally Posted by herr_oberst View Post
I was going to say, anyone who modifies a weapon that radically probably doesn't think much about leaving one empty for safety, do they? Or, maybe they leave two empty just because it's so scary!
If you notice, he does load only five rounds. Maybe only because he is filming. He does say, repeatedly, not to fast draw with live ammo as well. Might be worried about litigation or something.

One thing that I picked up on that kind of annoys me is his use of .45 ACP brass. Many of these revolvers chambered in .45 Colt come with an extra cylinder so chambered. Great idea, don't get me wrong, what with the availability of .45 ACP ammo and its cost compared to .45 Colt.

The problem for me, however, is that no one had that in the 1870's. They had a few choices in .45 Colt ammo, and all of them had significantly more lead and powder than his .45 ACP loads. The military used a 230 grain bullet over, at first, 28 grains of black powder. They later reduced that to 23 grains because recruits had such a hard time with recoil.

Civilian loads had up to 40 grains of black powder and 250-255 grains of lead. I'm here to tell you, that load in a lightweight Peacemaker is a real handful. More recoil than any .44 Magnum load I have ever cobbled together. Combined with the concussion and flash, it can be pretty darn intimidating. A real killer, though, with velocities exceeding 1,000 fps from my 7 1/2" Colt.

This guy is shooting what we colloquially refer to as "bunny fart" loads. 20 grains of black powder under a 200 grain bullet. And he complains about "recoil". This is a disease that has infected Coboy Action Shooting. He references a "power factor", but that is only used in IPSC style shooting to try to discourage the use of these squib loads in a "practical" competition. The Coboy Action folks don't do that. As a result, we see them using loads that were not only unavailable in the era they seek to emulate, but no one would have dared use them even if they were.

I would like to see him try this with one of my full power, period correct 40 grain / 250 grain loads. No way in hell.
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