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5% to 10% on a pre election poll that has a 10% tolerance...

Sounds like a close call. Too close to be reliable.

Anyway cultural diversions aside as to who has the best deal with cattle, we just like them MAD, its the preception of cause and effect that will do the greatest harm.

As for the US military record since the US exists which neatly
avoid the war if Independance, its not 100% win record.

Civil War. Ouch. Not glorious.

War against the Native Indians. Better avoid that one.

A couple of big team efforts in WW1 and WW2, a good victory in Korea, but Vietnam was not so clear cut, as for excursions in Panama and Greneda well not really full matches were they?

Libya? Bit of a hit and run, but very effective nonetheless.

Gulf War 1..clean cut military victory but 'politically' a great loss. And as Von Clausvitz ans Sun Tse quote, War is politics by other means.

Gulf War 2. Rapildy heading the same way as above.

I apologise for omissions this is off the cuff, I'm sure I've missed one or two.

As for the French wanting to defend their own interests in Iraq, isn't that what the US is doing?

Same goals different methods?

And getting rid of a totalitarianregime which abuses it population is not a good reason becuase there are plenty of those which recieve US recognition as well as distain which do not get invaded...
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