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Originally posted by dd74
Sam: you make some valid points that I'd like to address (don't read on if you've heard this before...)
1. Our economy (CA's) would fall apart at the seams if there would be a sudden stop to immigration. Illegal immigration is what buses our table, cuts our lawn, washes our cars and cleans our houses/apartments. Quite honestly, I haven't yet met a legal immigrant who does this and is not expected to be paid three or four times as much as an illegal.
2. I don't see the viability in denying illegals health care - at least basic. I know it's a financial drain. But I've always feared that from an untreated body of people, disease can break out and effect a much larger portion of the population. Health care for everyone, regardless of status, should be provided only so that everyone is protected.
3. I completely agree with you with Spanish/English classes and the myriad of other bilingual literature we have to contend with as an English-speaking country. We need the English language as, if anything, our common cultural bind. It's all we really have given America's diverse nature.
Given that, wholeheartedly major crackdowns need to be implemented at the Mexican border - not necessarily Canadian - but Mexican. The people need to be documented for the second point that I lay out. Collecting taxes from them, however, would be more difficult as most illegals are paid in cash.
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1. Your economy is falling apart right now...mostly due to liberal lawyers setting economic policy in your state. Using the arguement that illegals provide services justifies allowing them to break the law is the same argument that drug dealers can use. They provide a service. They add to the economy when the spend their hard earned drug money on hookers, booze and 28" wheels for their ride right?
2. Deny them everything. They are breaking the law. Send them back to their county. By providing them free health care you have put out a carrot for others to follow with no stick on the othe side. You are inviting more illegal and (with 20% classified as criminals) dangeous people to cross into this country.
Come here legally and I am all for giving you services...TEMPORARILY.
3. We agree. Western culture is under assault. There is nothing wrong with Western European culture. I am very proud of my roots (Welsh, German, French and American Indian) but I don't call myself a German-American, or French-American, or whatever. I am an American who speaks English.
Look, America is the finest country ever established by man in the history of the planet. I realize that folks in other country's would not agree and they shouldn't...they should be proud of THEIR country. Kinda like when you are on a sports team...you always think you the best even if some areas of the team could be improved...patrotism is right. I am a flag waver and damn proud of it.
Sorry for the rant...I just see BOTH political parties (although one more than the other) giving our country away just to get a vote and it is wrong and it is very sad.