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Originally Posted by shoooo32 View Post
I support vintage cars in SVRA, HSR, etc. It's insane how much money it costs to go racing at that level. Event fees with a test day are touching $2k and a garage rental at places like COTA are $2500. You're over $4k and you haven't left the house, prepped the car, bought tires, fuel, brakes, paid the crew, hotels, meals, etc.

You can have 80% of the fun of wheel to wheel at a track day for 10% of the cost of a top tier vintage weekend.
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I get the difference in performance so average speeds won't be as high but still ... 100 mph amounts to the same energy relative to mass whether in a 150/2500 or 500hp/3200lb car.

So, go tracking but stick with "safe" speeds ? That incident above is at around 100mph or just below.
Pmax I have never had any interest in DE's and subscribe to the theory mentioned that there is no guarantees for tomorrow. But I will note that even in a DE you sign a waiver for everyone there that you could do stupid things and you are responsible and everyone else signs the same one. So what's a safe speed, I have no freakin idea? People come to a race in an ill prepared car and there is no safe speed over 20mph, seriously I have seen it. A married couple showed up at Indy one year in 2 cars of the same make and model just different colors and it looked like they belonged at the children's park immediately. And by the 3rd practice session the husband had a bad incident all by himself? They packed up and left and we never saw them again. And they were slooooow, like really slow. We call them rolling road blocks. And you can't trust them to even pass them.

Someone in our Texas club thought I should teach new drivers(bad idea, not mine!) and I would tell them you have an equal or better car than I have. More HP, better brakes, great suspension but you have limited experience. First you should not be here to race, you should go to a Skip Barber school and then do a year of DE's with an instructor and then come back to race. Response, I'm not doing that. Okay, then follow me and I will drive around 6 to7/10's of my normal speed on the tract and you have one job, stay on my bumper(even though I do not have one). They couldn't do it. UNBELIEVABLE! Do not show up with 0 experience and scared!

My point, there is no safe speed on the track. As in most professional racing there is a so called "safe minimum speed" but even that speed, in the hands of a moron, isn't safe. Bottom line, if you go out worried and scared you shouldn't be there but do place enough respect for the track if you do go and prepare responsibly for the sake of all of the participants. Please!
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