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Originally Posted by speeder

How much do you California haters want to bet right here and now that every square inch that was burned in the Palisades gets rebuilt? As always, you seem to have a basic misunderstanding of this place and think that it's just Phoenix or Cincinnati near the ocean.

Where would some super-successful people who lived in the Palisades move to, in your imagination? People live here BY CHOICE, not because it's where they were hatched and they never had the wherewithal to move anywhere else. It's a special place. Yes, it's more expensive in every way than most other places in the U.S. but the benefits in terms of recreation, natural beauty, the local economy, jobs, institutes of higher learning, restaurants, etc., make the possible replacement locations close to non-existent.

Also, people have lived in the area for generations and have deep community and professional ties, not to mention extended family. One good friend who grew up in Santa Monica Canyon, (between Pacific Palisades and Santa Monica), owns a house now in the canyon and his 85 year old father and stepmother live close by. Both houses were spared or missed by the fire, thank god. The father is one of 10 children, all very accomplished and most relocated to the Santa Monica or Palisades area decades ago from New York and raised families here.

They are just one example of a very large family full of high achievers in the area. There are thousands of others. Do people like this exist in other parts of the country and the world? Of course they do but I'm talking about people who choose to live in Southern California in places so beautiful that I could not have closed my eyes and imagined them as a child before I saw them. The thought of people like this relocating to somewhere in the middle of the country because of a fire is absurd. Maybe there is some young tech-scrote or influencer living off of credit cards who lived in the area and will now get spit-out back to Kansas but I view that as a positive for L.A. I hope that lots of weaklings leave, we'll be better for it.

No one hates California. Just the opposite. Most love it and hate to see it craped on by those that run the state. No one ever implied that the area would not be rebuilt. Just likely not by all the original owners.

Where will those that no longer have homes (but wherewithal) move to? They sure will not stay on their burned-out lot in a tent for a few years. They will move elsewhere in CA and price out those without a big chunk of insurance money to burn...or perhaps even leave the area altogether.

Some folks did not have insurance or not enough to rebuild. Some of those will certainly go elsewhere (there was already an exodus...some that fled already post here). Some will indeed go to another part of the city/state or farther to rebuild their lives. Others will follow employers that will flee or will have to seek new employment if their employer was burned out and does not reopen. For many, maybe life will not be as pleasant without the massive number of illegals that mow their grass, tend to their children and cook for them for slave wages (who will leave soon).

After enduring the high taxes, the relentless crime, filthy streets lined with addicts/homeless, and now this massive fire, some folks will decide that they just do not receive the services they pay for and come to the conclusion that LA is just too unsafe to raise a family and too expensive to retire in (unless something changes). California is indeed beautiful and there are many nice folks living there, but many folks could afford to relocate there...and choose not to. I would live there again myself if it were better run...as I have no real community ties where I am now after a lifetime of military service and constant moves. I love the climate/scenery. Currently, the risk/reward ratio is just too thin.