[Gabe.]

Originally Posted by 2mAn

There has to be a way to get a wiring diagram for that, but you also know a guy who has a weird fetish for building wiring harnesses...

Excited to see where this goes!

Originally Posted by Locker537

Someone has to have the wiring diagrams. Maybe ask in the Cup Car forum over on Rennlist.

Wiring diagrams have been acquired thanks to the Rennlist cup car forums and their generosity

Originally Posted by chucksmith

As much as I have enjoyed watching your build over time, and as much as I hope you decide to continue working on it( maybe back to aircooled type car, 993 VRAM perhaps). The reality is that in 15 years you will not miss the car that much, but you will regret not spending as much time as possible with your daughter. That is just the fact of fatherhood.

I appreciate your thoughts! You're right and none of this is all that precious. I'll likely continue to have a 911 in my life in some way shape or form until the end of time but it doesn't specifically need to be this one.

Originally Posted by dreebs

This build is incredible...I'm still working on getting caught up, but I've peeked at the later pages and...holy moly. Epic work!!

Thanks for following along!

Originally Posted by Kevin Stewart

Gabe, what's the hurry? Here's my story.
I bought this 1982 SC in? I can't remember between 1998-2000 and its not important. I drove it to work for a year and it was lightly hit at 2 am in front of my house. My daughter was 12 or 13, man is it tough to be a dad to a daughter, just trying to figure out how to do things with a teenage girl, have a conversation, be kind, loving, fatherly, and teach, is a TOUGH job for a father with a daughter and it still is.

She showed some interest in the car, so we took the insurance money plus a pile of cash and we decided to hot rod it. She helped me design a widebody Targa. Yes she dug the speed yellow so speed yellow it was. We were driving it with the stock 3.0 and she called it a pooch, and said dad we need a bigger motor. So a 3.6 from Germany was on the way. She helped when she could (sports, school) but I got to have some great conversations with her just to figure out where she was. She said Dad it would be cool as a convertible. So we found a kit that was a Targa/convertible mix with a speedster clam. If you want to hear the story about her freaking out when we cut the roof off let me know.

The big day came and she was off to college and never really returned to the Notre Dame Indiana area. You want to talk about heart broken. After that I went to grad school, raced my Outlaw super late. Started a business. The car sat till maybe 2014-2015 when I drove it 20 miles. Still only has about 1000 miles on it with a fresh motor from when I installed it to this day. Couple years ago I put Zuchs on it, bunch of parts sitting on the roof. And still sits.

She has a key, its half her car, we have conversations about it, I now have a couple granddaughters. And its time to get to this car. The goal is a car build (of course a Porsche) with my 3 year grand daughter, Portland Or, is a long distance but we will do it.

I never finished it, even the motor was never taken out to tidy it up from the initial build test fit

I am getting ready to pull the motor, detail it, a few new parts, new suspension parts, a hard top, big brakes, paint freshen up, interior carpet etc. ( I will be doing a thread or add to the old one). It may take me a couple more years, but its ok, when I go out to the garage and look at it, its a painting or artwork, all those memories come back as I sit and stare at it.

Moral of the story, its ok for it to sit. In a few years your daughter will love the car and you will cherish the memories like I have. One day she will have a key and maybe you will get it done faster then I have. In 15 years the parts will be astronomic in cost. Your daughter would not want you to give up your dream, its ok, you'll get to it. This is absolutely a true story, Sorry to hijack your thread. Kevin

Thanks Kevin, I appreciate your thoughts and thanks for sharing your story.

In a way, there is never a rush. In another way, if I'm not using something I have a propensity to want to get rid of it. My use of the car has changed a lot since moving from Los Angeles to Minneapolis and even more so having kids. It will become a fair weather, drive to the gym, auto events, and hopefully a rally once in a while situation and I'm trying to decide if I'm ok with that.

It's funny but I also reread through my thread once in a while and marvel at all the obstacles I've overcome to build this into my version of the "perfect" budget 911. It's no doubt a pretty epic build and I think if I can get the engine fired up, which I think I'm close to, that will go a long way into deciding on next steps.

Regardless, I'll always have some sort of project to tinker on and I hope my kids will take an interest but you can never force it.

Originally Posted by LukasM

Hi Gabe,

If you need some inspiration for the eventual amazing outcome of shoehorning a watercooled engine into an air cooled chassis, I just came across a really insane build, a 964 with a GT3 engine and a bunch of other amazing upgrades, they call it the 964 RS GT. I would think that you already know about it but didn't see you mention REEN Automotive so not sure?

There are some cool videos on Youtube and a detailed interview with the founder Philip Hoffmann on the Car Chat podcast. While the 964 chassis is somewhat different, the rear mounting area should be the same, so maybe their engine crossbar works? You could also try and find out what they are using for front radiators, if you haven't gotten the CSF ones yet.

Cheers,
Lukas

Originally Posted by Jonny042

There's a great Henry Catchpole video too:

Thanks for bumping the thread guys! Always nice to know folks are still thinking about the project.

I've watched both those videos and it's exciting to see that some shops have figured out what I'd also like to accomplish. The engine/trans are mounted into the car but yes, fueling, wiring/management, and cooling are question marks. Routing the cooling lines and fitting radiators has been done but actually getting enough cooling to make it work long term is still a question mark.

Interestingly, the reen homepage makes it look like they've now moved away from the watercooled GT3 engine and back toward an aircooled? Albeit an aircooled with 4 valves/cylinder...

The 964/993 chassis is an easier starting point than a G-Body. Both the 964/993 have a center tunnel underneath the car that's accessible from below which is similar to all modern-day watercooled chassis and where the water lines run. Both 964 and 993 also have more room in the front bumper for radiators. Those with a keen eye may have noticed I bumped up my WTB thread for a 964/993 chassis. Mark let me know he still has a 993 shell available and I've been heavily considering whether or not I want to go down that path.

All that said, I have made some progress in the last few weeks.

I ordered "all" the fittings for the fueling system.

• Radium fuel pressure regulator with a 5-bar Bosch FPR
• AN Fittings and line, only had to reorder one extra time, lol.
• Staubli breakaway connectors for the fuel lines to connect directly to the Cup parts. None of the stock Staubli stuff fits the cup car without me busting out the cut-off wheel. I have a line out to 311RS to see if they can order the correct part from PMNA before I start chopping.
• Deutsch connector for the fuel pump harness. I still need to order the Deutsch crimp tool and 16-gauge tefzel or TXL wire.

This should be enough to get the car to fire up albeit not drivable until I also put some cooling together.

Phew. We're getting there.