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Originally Posted by Rick Lee

In AZ you can use deadly force against someone trying to enter a car you're in. Occupied is the key word for using deadly force. You can shoot someone trying to set fire to an occupied bldg too.

Originally Posted by onewhippedpuppy

Yes, both are the same here. Also can use deadly force to defend someone else, like someone being robbed at gun or knifepoint. It’s all about a reasonable threat of bodily harm to you or someone else. Somebody trying to steal your car stereo in the driveway doesn’t count.

Originally Posted by GH85Carrera

There was a case her in Oklahoma where a pregnant lady was home alone. She heard someone kicking in her front door. She grabbed her gun, and dropped the first guy a font inside her house. She fired a second shot at the second guy just as he stepped outside and he ran about 10 feet and collapsed. She sat down and collected herself, and called 911. Both of the guys were DOA.

The police checked he gun, and returned it a week later. No charges were ever filed. Both dead low lifes had long criminal records. The local community considered her a hero.

So in other words, exactly the same as it is here in Los Angeles, CA. You can absolutely shoot someone trying to carjack you while you're in your car or someone trying to forcibly enter a domicile that you are inside of. If you go outside with your gun to confront someone, it gets murkier but you may still not get charged if the DA decides that it was a clean self-defense situation.

I listen to the LAPD scanner for western districts sometimes when I'm driving alone at night. We had a case that fits into the discussion we're having and I basically heard it go down live. A woman was at home alone or with a baby, (can't remember that detail), in a very upscale part of the Hollywood Hills. Someone was outside trying to break in so she called her husband who was not home and he called 911. She was armed and said that she would shoot the guy if he breached a door. While the cops were speeding to her code 3, (lights and sirens), the guy breached a door and she smoked him. I heard the LAPD dispatcher report the whole thing to responding officers.

It was written about in the paper and the police said that she was fully in her rights to shoot the guy and would not be arrested or charged. I feel sorry for her, it must have been traumatic.

We had another case 2 weeks ago where a guy had to shoot his own brother dead because he was choking their 80 year old mother during a violent argument. Also a legal shooting, no charges will be filed. Do you need the news articles or do you believe me?

It happens all the ****ing time.