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Originally Posted by craigster59
I've posted before of my Son being head of cyber security for a global port/shipping container business.
I had discussed with him the hacking of navigation systems for the huge cargo ships transporting these containers around the globe. I always thought that was the biggest cyber threat to our supply chain.
His work travel for over a year has been to go to major port cities (Rotterdam, Bremerhaven, Antwerp, New Jersey, Savannah, Long Beach, etc) and go up into the cranes and loading equipment with a 5G scanner and uncovering all of the Chinese chips used in the manufacture of this equipment that does surveillance and also has the ability to be "neutralized" at any time.
I'm not saying this tech is dwelling in your Chinese manufactured backhoe but it should give some people pause when making equipment purchases.
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I posted something about that in the tariff thread.
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Originally Posted by jyl
No info about stand ons, but generically:
- China manufacturing is very efficient, high automation/robot usage, high volume. Some EV manufacturing is getting close to lights-out.
- Inputs from raw material to labor to components are domestically sourced and low priced.
- Chinese companies work with low margins in very competitive markets. No big stock buybacks, giant CEO comp.
I would worry about spares and support.
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The welds look pretty clean so I'm betting on robotic welding. Most of the attachments I've seen for skid steer loaders that come from China have sloppy welds. The lone exception is one particular brand that I'm convinced has copied Bobcat's designs on buckets and a few other pieces. The major difference between them and Bobcat's attachments is the sloppy quick attach plate that allows the quick attach on the machine to move up and down in the attachment.
It's a safe bet that support is non existent and parts will be tough to source if there is a failure.