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How was the stiffness/defection? They have a 911 here they showed me with a carbon fiber roof replacement panel they did, and with the palm of your hand you could deflect it easily like pressing down on a plastic trash bin lid. Didn't instill a lot of confidence in the event of a roll over, not to mention loss of chassis stiffness.
Steve, your car is looking great! Can't wait to see it all done.

Not all carbon parts are made the same, and just like fiberglass, there's a huge variety of construction methods and stiffness/strengths possible. There's a lot of flimsy garbage out there. Plastic trash bin is a good way to describe it!

I've built a carbon roof for my latest project that I will be able to stand once it's bonded in. The carbon roof structure weighs about 3000g (6.6lbs). I've seen skins advertised as light as 1.2kg. That would be great for a race car. I'm guessing that's the sort of construction that you pressed on at the body shop.

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Continuing on the roof skin topic, this was by far the largest infusion I've done. It took about an hour to get to this point:



It's starting to become obvious why the oven has to be so large!



It turned out pretty great!





The final trimmed part will be about 3000g, or 6.6 pounds. Is it a bit heavier than you might expect? Well, it is fully my intention to post a picture of me STANDING ON THE ROOF once it's bonded to the shell. Preliminary testing indicates this has the strength and stiffness for that to happen.
If someone wanted a lighter version for a racecar I could make one as light as 1500g, but IMO it would be completely unsuitable for a street car.



My measurements and calculations tell me if I was to remove the roof skin from a non-sunroof car, that piece of steel would weigh 13.5 pounds, so about double that of the carbon skin.

The truthful and realistic weight savings for removing a sunroof and all its mechanisms, cutting a larger hole, and bonding on a carbon skin will be in the neighborhood of 35 pounds.
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