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Originally Posted by Deschodt
You're not wrong on inflation, but I think there are other factors at play.. Salaries have completely disconnected from inflation in the last 10 years for one, post covid car prices have skyrocketed, and also the used prices have gone berserk... if I take the price of my first 911 (SC) in the mid to late 90s in today's money, it is 1/2 of what the market is now for a used 911 of any ilk (not the same car, but apples to apples on a used car).
Also back then the dealers were not playing games. I recall buying a 986 new (my first new one) at about 1/2 of what one is today and that does not track with inflation either. I had a shot at a friend's GT3 (used) for $70K 10y ago, comparatively today's GT cars are not depreciating, AT ALL - in some cases you pay more than new MSRP. And back then the dealers did not play the allocation games. So yeah, I hear you in theory - and when I say "for the rest of us" I do not mean it was their brand positioning, but it was how they were to ME - cars I could afford used and possibly new eventually... Can't fault the inflation reasoning to a degree, but I am convinced they moved upmarket ferrari style(covid made that happen IMO when they saw they sold all their GT allocations despite dealers marking up like madmen). In simple ME terms, I still have a decent job but from 1990-2010 I *could* play with used/cpo/occasionally new porsches. Now there is no way I could justify it (even if I could), on a similar "old car age sliding scale, vs then", so something changed.. from other posts I see I am not alone thinking something took a turn.. (still messed up and that was for OT)
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In a previous job, I was like you and had the $ to look at newer 911's. I was completely turned off by the PDK only 911 Turbo (back in 2018 was when I was looking). I had a 996TT at the time that was a great GT car, but I missed the responsiveness of the NA motor. I wanted a manual car though, so that limited the type of 911 I could buy new-erish.
I did however jump into the GT world at that point, and paid the sticker price from 2010 for my GT3RS. I traded my 996TT and decided why not, you only live once.
Fast forward a few years, and that GT3RS has appreciated well enough that I could pick up most of the new 911 models for sale (minus maybe a new GT2RS) but they are bloated looking and like has been mentioned, have lost their way. Sure it is faster, but at what cost? Yeah you can get a touring, or some stupid low production model like the ST to get the manual. But my days of spending $ like that are long gone.
I also agree that the newer GT cars are used for Instagram etc., but I know some folks who drive the crap out of them. So there are some enthusiasts around.
So ultimately I am saddened by the direction the company has gone. I think though I am more disappointed by the fact that I cannot buy a 964 or G body for a decent price anymore.
Bill