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Originally Posted by Zeke View Post
I doubt the thermal camera will do much other than you say and they aren't a bad thing. I just wouldn't spend a lot of money. It won't show vents for instance. Electrical is easy to find. Plumbing is pretty easy looking at vents at the roof, clean outs, ect.

Do you have a permit for this. You mention floor sinks. Each counts 2 plumbing units IIRC and over a certain amount of units you need a 6" main.

The questions you ask are telling me you have no idea. Wait until you face ADA. That will change the picture dramatically.
I have a 6” main, scoped and CIPP lined. Lucked out there, this house was originally the downstream house in a party line so they made the main from house to street larger than normal for a house. The other house got separated last year.

I will want about 4 floor sinks in the kitchen (but 3 would be manageable) and one at the coffee bar. Plus the mop sink.

Architect is working on plans for the permit application; my plumber and electrician will pull permits for their work.

The plumbing is not that easy to locate, actually. It’s a 110+ y/o three story house that has been substantially changed over the years, converted to three full units with three kitchens and three bathrooms back pre-WW2, finished basement with no cleanout (to scope we had to install a cleanout), finished attic, roof too high for me to see much. Stuff is pretty covered up and in some cases done weird. My plumber came over and looked at the job, we have some idea what we hope to tie to, but aren’t sure exactly where it is.

I’ll find what I need by opening things up, I guess. The lath and plaster is a pain to tear down and haul, if it was drywall I wouldn’t be asking about a scanner.

Everyone asks about ADA, say I’ll have to make the entire building fully ADA compliant. I guess the rules vary by locality.

Here in Portland, the city rules are as follows, for an existing building:
1. You must spend up to 25% of hard budget on ADA.
2. Your ADA work must be in the following priority order: a) accessible route from parking to building, b) accessible route to entrance, c) accessible entrance, d) accessible restroom.
3. You are not required to actually achieve ADA compliance, if it’s not doable within the budget in #1.
4. There is a program to defer ADA work, and the city has discretion to not require expenditure that would be pointless.

So, my parking lot is dirt and gravel. a) means I’ll have it dug out and have concrete poured, about 500 sf including path to the building. b) means I’ll install an exterior rated wheelchair lift from path to porch. c) means I’ll install a ramped threshold for the entry. d) means I’ll . . . realistically, I will expend the 25% budget before we ever get to the restroom, but I’ll do my best to make it accessible, but am not intending to move walls etc so there won’t quite be the 60” turning circle in there.
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