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Interesting. I feel like I've also heard you talk about some sort of 44 or 45 (45-70, 45-90, 45-110 or something like that, I think there are a few sizes) that was made for rifles. I assume the rounds above likely have better, long range ballistics so are better for hunting?
And out of curiosity, if a bear burst out of the brush headed at you, how capable would something like a 12ga slug be. I assume those are big, heavy, and slow, but with enough mass to hit like a ton of bricks. I would think at close-ish range, a 12ga slug would be a fairly nasty beast against just about anything smaller than a car.