[widebody911]

I got laid off twice last year. Right now I'm working @ HP. The nice thing about HP is they only do layoffs on the days that end in 'Y"

I landed my first programming job @ 15. Except for about 6 years of working for the US Forest Service and then CDF, I've been doing IT ever since then.

I don't see myself doing IT 10 years from now. Maybe not even 5. This stuff is too easy to offshore. Don't know what I'm going to do next, but I spend a little time each day thinking about it.

Even for the positions that will stay, I'm seeing companies laying off people and then re-filling the position, just getting someone cheaper. The most cruel examples I've seen are where the company hired the same person back into the same job, just for less pay. IMHO, these guys were idiots for going back, but they hadn't found anything else out there.

The overall trend - irrespective of what you're told about the 'recovery' - is immense downward pressure on white-collar wages.