Ok I have had my dad round to help me this morning but still no joy, the calipers are not stuck or frozen as I can see them out and pushing the pads against the discs and if I really pump the brekes I do get pressure but as soon as I let off the Pressure goes! we bled the whole system again several times and there is no more air coming out. Is it possible that there is air in the master cylinder? and that I am just pushing it around the system and never getting it out??, I think that I'm getting to the stage of giving up now and crawling my way down to the local mechanic using the hand brake! as I figure that brakes arn't the best thing not to have faith in my own work!.
Paul