Look.... for the advise that you get here I don't think anyone can complain. try a little harder. BTW everyone here hates me more

because I drive a V8 car (several others on this board do to but stay quiet).......but still many people give me great advice when I am stuck and I thank you all for the direction Jack, Warren, Bill and everyone else......... so get over the my post got lost thing

. Oh, and the Bump thing works.