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Anyone with half a brain would agree that renewable energy sources are "a good idea". In the same breath most would argue that the technology isn't there yet, blah blah blah.

This isn't about technology. It isn't about pollution. It isn't about price. It is all about CONTROL. We currently live in a *centralized* power structure. We are almost all fully addicted, and under the thumb of a select few people/companies. Between gasoline and electrcity generation, you have ZERO say over what you get and how much you pay...unless you choose to try and go without.

Over 25 years ago I took a course that used "The Integrated Urban House" as a text book. There was a blueprint for independent living...solar providing power, gray water providing irrigation, well designed structures that required less energy to heat/cool, etc. To date maybe a few hippies have followed that model. But along the way there have been a smattering of people talking about decentralized electricity generation (co-op model), where the power is made on the city block scale instead of the entire city/state model. If over the past 25 years significant money had been put into R&D for renewable energy sources and efficient transportation (bicycles work pretty good...and help keep people from getting fat), we'd be in a very different place.

You can argue that the consumer doesn't want that...they want SUVs and 4K sq ft houses, yada yada. Well, they want that becuase they can afford that becuase we don't have *realistic* energy prices. We pay what it costs now, but not what it costs for the long term. Then again, who cares about the next generation? Oh yeah...since we'll be living longer (although likely disease ridden due to obesity and other fun things), the next generation has to take care of us. Like we've done with them?!?

hey, its early...I haven't had my coffee yet...
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