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My recollection about the PDB is that the Pres. received several vague warnings about Al Quada. So to did Pres. Clinton for that matter. In fall 2000 a predator drone had the guy in its sights and we had no military on stand by to do anything about it. This whole argument about what the President should have done differently is a load of crap.

If the point of arm chairing this thing to death is so we don't make the same mistakes twice I get that and support it. If the point is to try and place politcal blame for 3,000 lives being lost, SHAME SHAME SHAME.

Through all this stuff the only thing I have gotten is that the FBI and the CIA were the Keystone Cops of the modern generation. The literally were, and in some respects still are, the Gang that could not shoot straight. They should feel the embarrassment of this tragedy. They were the organizations that HAD THE INFO to do something about this plot for almost 2 years prior to its completion. FBI couldn't find two of the hijackers, THEY WERE IN THE SAN DIEGO PHONEBOOK. My six year old nephew can find Waldo faster than those jacka$$es could find their guns. Then, in their infinite wisdom, they fail to even look on Massoui's computer. It basically had the whole thing laid out on it. Then in April some guy walks into the FBI office and says, hey guys guess what I was trained by Al Qaida I've been to Pakistan, I know about this hijacking, something going on. … I told them before 9/11, about more than a year, be … hijacking in America or on an America airline," Khan tells federal agents. He says he was sent to the U.S. to join operatives here. Khan passes two polygraphs, but FBI headquarters doesn’t believe him and lets him go.

These are some of the screw ups i see from this crap. I believe that leadership takes the heat and that goes to the top but come on... If there is any anger or disconcerting feelings directed towards anyone about 9-11, in my opinion they should be directed at the FBI and the CIA for being the interally aweful agencies that they are.

PS. Sure looks like the CIA got things together for the Pres. on the whole Iraq, WMD, stuff. Thanks a lot guys. Sure looks like you rebounded well after 9-11.

Is all of this lost on everyone. Am I alone in my outrage at these people for doing such a $hitty job? This is not politics, this is people charged with our safety and security screwing up big time, OVER AND OVER again. So why is it Michael Moore didn't focus on this and not on the politics? Because we never blame buerocrats, they just cruise along, getting cost of living raises every year, unable to be fired, just "doing their job." Well I tell you what, if any of my staff did a job like that I would fire their a$$ in a minute and I hope you would too.

[OFF FBI Rant/SoapBox] Breathe... Resume normal operation.
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What you've just said is one of the most insanely idiotic things I have ever heard. At no point in your rambling, incoherent response were you even close to anything that could be considered a rational thought. Everyone in this room is now dumber for having listened to it. I award you no points, and may God have mercy on your soul!
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