[Beethoven]

I don't think you have got good points here, Ronin. Clinton went to war with NATO backing and military support. He had to work very hard to convince the Europeans to do it, and prevailed.
The most dangerous mistake in this terrible war is to think it's Osama against George. It's a hundred thousand crazed fundamentalists eager to blow themselves up in your face against us who want to go about our business. There is no way to defeat them militarily, as the latest CIA report (first falsified, then corrected) has shown. If you don't get wise to this fast, things will get very ugly very fast.