[Jmasters]

Hi, I am having trouble removing the front section of carpet in my 84 944. I was tring to get the carpet out in one piece but, it ripped on me, I don't really care about the old carpet as it is getting replaced with some good carpet. I can't seem to get the carpet out from under the center part of the dash, in front of the shifter. Does the dash have to be removed to replace carpet? Anyone have any tips on how to remove the carpet? , I have tried pulling on it , but it just rips, I have tried scraping under it, but can't get to the upper part, as it is almost touching the bottom part of the dash.
thanks