[Superman]

Len, the list of out-and-out lies that have come out of Dubya's mouth is breathtaking. There is just no way you could possibly be informed, and take the position that he has not lied. No matter how you define "lie." There are endless links to these lists of lies, some of which have been cut and pasted in these threads. A book has recently been published. In my country there is freedom of speech, but that freedom does not extend to those who would try to libel someone. So, do you feel that the author of this new book is fearful of a lawsuit? You must. It's a thick book on the narrow topic of the lies our "president" routinely tells.

If you convined me that you think Geo Metros are faster than 917's, then I would draw a conclusion. Not about how fast Metros are, but about your reasoning in drawing that conclusion. Now, I think you agree that 917's are faster than Metros, so I can have confidence in your ability to compare automobiles. But you now tell me that Dubya does not lie? That's going to cause me to draw a conclusion. Not a conclusion about Dubya.