[fintstone]

I agree. kerry proved he was very glib, a smooth talker and master debater....which we already knew.

He also proved he is still not willing to take a position or offer a specific course of action on anything...(only that whatever he does, it will somehow be better than what Bush would do).....we already knew that

And finally, he proved to be incapable of the truth....which we already knew.

Bush was flustered and did not present himself as presidential...but at least came across as an honest man who is trying to do the right thing.

Neither said or did anything new that would make an informed voter change their mind.