[CamB]

Just remember that while you see Kerry "spin and lies" about the rationale for war, I see Bush's spin and lies about the rationale for war. Maybe the true position of both candidates is in the middle.

...nuclear testing...

This is interesting, and I (really) might need some help thinking it through. A few months ago, the leader of the (right wing) opposition may or may not have made a statement (subsequently released to the media) at a closed door discussion with US officials to the effect that if his party was elected, the ban on nuclear powered ships (yes, we really have that) coming to NZ would be lifted.

The "no nukes" concept is pretty deeply ingrained in NZ minds, so there was outrage.

I'm not sure this actually parallels what your saying though.

I think I see the problem though - what you're saying is that Kerry is misrepresenting the current situation (to his own gain). I put it to you that he is not worse than Bush in this respect.