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A Man of Wealth and Taste
Join Date: Dec 2002
Location: Out there somewhere beyond the doors of perception
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The Prophet Speaks
I'm tired of the spin.....basically the spin doesn't serve America well at all...it just makes both sides pissed off at each other...for lying...
I thought this time Bushy pulled it off....he was forcefull etc...and was angry that Kerry was making it sound like he could do nothing right... But that is so much Kerry BS...becuase when yur sitting in THE OFFICE if you don't make 10 mistakes a day your not doing the job....being President on average takes 5 years off a mans life...it is a very hard job ....
I think if style were the deciding factor Kerry would have won....but Kerry displayed no substance.....his own words betrayed him ....
When asked about abortion Kerry hemmed and hawed and made no definative answer...
When asked about Stem Cells Bush gave you a straight answer and stuck to it...he had to balance ethical considerations with science...
There you have it , your choich.
Further...Kerry said he had a plan for this and a plan for that...I would really like to know what some of those plans entail...he was dreadfully short on details..what am I saying there was no detail ...just I have aplan.....
Now Kerry looked right into the camera and said he would NOT RAISE TAXES ON THE MIDDLE CLASS....so exactly how is Kerry going to pay for all these plans he has....Kerry is not going to be able to give AMericans cake and let them eat it to...they are going to have to pay for these plans...so either the plans get carried out and taxes are raised or he doesn't carry out his plans....
Boyz the dilemma I just posed is inconsistent enough to make it clear Kerry will not be a good president...and is also the basis of why I thought he lost the debate on substance rather than style...
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Now I don't mean to be an alarmist....but I don't think the American people have been told the truth about how close 911 was to being a KO punch...Bushy let something drop during the debate which I have alluded to in previous posts....he said that if he didn't lower taxes when he did the recession would have turned into a
DEPRESSION...
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I have read a fair amount of History....in the past a Democratic form of government usually has lasted 200 to 250 years....before they slide into dictatorship....
Ancient Rome and the United States match up as being the 2 most powerfull Repblics that ever existed...so as I watch events unfold in America I compare them to similar events that happened in Rome....
What I think happens to a Democratic society that gains great power is that they become so rich that they don't know what to do with all the money..so they begin to be extravagant and wastefull ... blowing the money on all kinds of things like unnecessary wars and social programs....at some point the extravagance catches up with the country and because they are so used to being wealthy they continue on being wastfull and can't take care of business anymore...as the country progress on down the slippery slope the Political process becomes more and more frayed, with the factions fighting over who gets to feed at the trough, because both sides can no longer feed at the same time.. Eventually the people get so tired of the political instabilty they opt for a restoration of order at the expense of Democracy....
The United States really started being extravagant and wastefull in the late 1960's with the war in Vietnam and the Great Society....By the 1970's the strain was becoming apparent...In the 1980's US businesses looked like they were on the ropes and started to become lean and mean...downsizing their managerial work force...the 1990's freed up money the US was spending on the Cold War along with a boom in tech related industries...Today it is apparent that there is a slide in the standard of living in the USA that basically started back in the 1960's when the Tax laws were changed to promote spending over saving. So now it's come down to the realization that both political factions can no longer feed at the trough anymore... the Peace dividend is blown and the US is now faced with an enemy that can bring the house of cards known as our financial system down not with a major military effort but a small group of dedicated people.
Most people think that the 2000 election showed just how strong American Democracy is ..in that we didn't have rioting in the streets and rule of law prevailed with the Supream Court decision....I felt it was a nail in the coffin of American Democracy...because for the first time in American History a political faction disputed an election based on the mechanism of the election process itself...in a sense one faction was saying the the car/machine was broken...when in fact this very election mechanism was called good for umpteam election cycles... the very way votes were counted was called into dispute, this has never happened before...the rules of the election mechanism had never been called into question before...both sides had abided by it's decision in the past..flaws and all...and if you recall the major issue wasn't about election fraud, and the places where this political faction said the mechanism was broken was in the very counties they controled... This political factions people were the ones who were running the election mechanism that they said was broken. Simply put the damage that was done was to the trust that both political factions had in each other to abide by the results of the election machine..now neither political faction trusts the other.
Now we have seemingly smoothed over the differnces of 2000 but the vemhence that is being displyed between the political factions in this election cycle does not bode well...with the spin factor and the media egging both sides on American Democracy is in peril...especially if the election mechanism is called into question again by a close vote. The American people could take another recount of the votes debacle again....but if it happens a third time and with the ever present threat of terrorism....someboby is going to invoke National Security to restore order... and boyz thats it for American Democracy...
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