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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
So you are saying that Bush was SMART in how he went about winning.
I am guessing this means you are for gay marriage? Never mind I do not want to know (not that there is anything "wrong with that")!
Tim, it's completely irrelevant what I think on the issue, but in spirit of full disclosure, here's my quick take. Marriage is a religious term, and it is between a man and a woman. I don't know of many religions that espouse same sex partnering, although there was certainly a lot of it and incest too going on in the Old Testament.

Being that marriage is a religious value, no, homosexuals should not be married unless their religion condones it.

The State, however, is an entirely different entity, and there's that pesky thing in the Constitution and Bill of Rights about separation of church and state. No sure what that's all about. Anyway, this country being founded on the pursuit of happiness and liberty for all, remember those LIBERAL values, well, that means that things like civil unions which guarantees the same rights for homosexuals as they do heterosexuals is the State's RESPONSIBILITY to its people. the New Right makes me sick as it is slowly corrupting and eroding the TOPLINE values on which this country was founded. Please don't give me a tier 2 value response, please!!!

Anyway, back to the original topic, was the president being smart as you put it or did he lie about his intentions. What's the definition of fraud? Oh my, here it is from www.dictionary.com:

1. A deception deliberately practiced in order to secure unfair or unlawful gain.
2. A piece of trickery; a trick.
3.
1. One that defrauds; a cheat.
2. One who assumes a false pose; an impostor.

the president defrauded the country to win the election, using gay marriage as a wedge issue.

He did the same thing connecting 9/11 with Saddam.

Now this may be OK for corporate America, etc., but we are talking about our president here. We are talking about the leader of our country, one that has a lot of different people in it.

Ever read a management textbook? What are the top 5 qualities great leaders have? I'm pretty sure the ability to defraud his followers is not in that list.

Conservatives, WAKE-UP!!!!!! and most importantly, THINK. please.
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