[SteveStromberg]

Traffic also is really bad trying to get from MB to anywhere during rush hours.
The problem is way too many people.
The valley to SM will be more than an hour also.
Malibu HaHa Ha.
I would be surfing topanga and you could tell when it was 9:30am without a watch becuase the traffic would start to move.

I do know there are guys that fly up to SMO from SNA daily that would be the only way to do it.

You really do not want to live anywhere up there once you have live down here.