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Negioation with the North Koreans is almost pointless as they see negioation as a means of buying time, and will do what they want to regardless of what they agree to do....

The Iranians while being ruled by a Theocracy which has some pretty specific ideas as to how things should be...don't appear to be playing with a short deck..they know that there are consequences to their actions...Negioation and pressure might have the desired effect...

There are those in the Bush administartion who believe that allowing the Israelies or our use of force against specific targets in Iran will cause the people of Iran to rise up and over throw the theocracy..this is delusional thinking for it neglects to take into account Iranian NATIONALISM.(secularism)...which is the very force we are trying to promote vs. Theocracy... The likely outcome is that the Iranians will rally around the flag...

The rise of Iranian Theocracy was a reflecttion of the Iranians desire to control their own destiny and rid themselves of American influence over there futures...Much like Castro turned to Communism to rid Cuba of American infuence in Cuba (in thisw case it was the corruption of organized crime and the criminals use of Cuba as a base of operations).

While the USA seems to have little fear of China, Indias, Israels, and even Pakistani ownership of Nuclear weapons we have a fear of Iranian ownership...we fear that as an instrument of Theocratic foreign policy they will use those weapons in an indiscriminate fashion. However the aquistiion of Nuclear weapons has made even the most irresponisble of regimes (N Korea) play within a semblence of the rules....it seems no one who has ownership of them can escape the responsibility moral and otherwise of that ownership. Yet the real fear is that an amorphise organization which is not responsible.. like Al Queda would not hesitate to use them to further their agenda..