[Superman]

Now it occurs to me my rant may have been a bit strong. Don't mean it to be a personal attack, rj. I happen to agree with your feeling that a couple of years on a steamer would be about as good an education as you can get anywhere. But then....you'd visit other countries. And in most of the countries of the world, their "conservative" party is decidedly to the left of our "liberal" party. So, I guess there are not that many piles of sand into which one's head can be buried to avoid liberal ideas. If they're rampant in higher education organizations, and rampant in news and information organizations, and rampant in the general populations of most of nearly all the world's industrialized countries......... Then arguing they are nonsensical ideas takes arrogance like...well....like Dubya's arrogance.

Just holding up a mirror.