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Originally posted by stevepaa
As I said maybe we should extrapolate the 2nd down from a states' rights to local governance.
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Some states already have that -- like New York and Illinois. The cities, like NY City and Chicago have banned nearly all firearms and yet their crime rates are substantially higher than not only the surrounding communities that haven't banned firearms, but also substantially higher than other major cities in other states without similar firearm restrictions.
Of course what is always really interesting to consider is that prior to 1968 there were very limited laws governing firearms -- for example, anyone could buy virtually any legal rifle, handgun, or shotgun through the U.S. mail. No licensed gun dealer, no background check, just send a check or MO to the gun manufacturer or distributor and they would ship you the gun.
Consider the crime rates now compared to those pre-1968. It's substantially higher today -- even with Federally licensed firearm dealers, tons of paperwork, FBI background checks, waiting periods, etc. All the restrictions on the availability of firearms would appear to have
no influence on reducing crime rates -- kinda makes one wonder why people keep trying to argue that more laws restricting guns will somehow reduce crime?