My 2 cents.
OFF THREAD ISSUES
Bush isn’t stupid. But he probably isn’t up there near MENSA either. He is a very determined individual with a big ego and a sense that he knows what is right more so than other people. Not unlike many leaders. Most are like that. And IQ and SAT scores are sometimes at best only an indicator of test taking ability
Bush isn’t articulate but that isn’t a necessary qualification for a leader. I would prefer it, and perhaps if we had a more confrontational parliamentary style government we might get it.
And after all, how many of you want one of us high IQ "ingunears" really running the country.
ON THREAD efforts
Thanks to 350hp930 and john70t.
I had a previous post asking if any of the bush supporters would now apologize for getting us into this war. Nada. It seems that they all turn a blind eye. Some gave responses like this
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Originally posted by BSiple
Preach on Island. I have seen first hand what Al Qaeda Terrorists are capable of. Wait until they really impact our way of life here in the US.
I suppose we should have fired a couple of missles at Saddam, and then backed away....
whiners.....
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Bsiple: IRAQ was not part of 911. End of discussion on that.
Or the other common response
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Originally posted by island911 :
I like the way the article starts with a false premise: "War with Iraq" started when Saddams troops invaded Kuwait! Pushing him back to Bagdad. . .the No-Fly zone enforcement -- to keep Saddams genocide in check.
To say it started so simpley, such a short time ago, is really disingenuous.
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That is just plain hogwash. This war was sold on fear of WMD. But because there was no WMD, they now will try and resell it. The American public would never have supported this war w/o the WMD fear. End of discussion on this.
And there is the new rationalization
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Originally posted by Tim Hancock
Jeff, hold your head up. It aint over yet, but it appears good things are starting to happen in the Middle East (Syria/Lebanon, Israel/Palestine, women's rights, voting in Iraq, lots of dead terrorist/insurgents). Imagine if all this comes around while W is still in office, alot of naysayers will be changing their stories and claiming they were for it all along! How funny will that be??!!
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I can only hope it all works out well, but I will never say I supported the start of this war. I support that we need to finish what we started, but we were misled at the start. This is just another attempt to rewrite the war rational, to justify a "winners rule" mentality.
Finally,
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Originally posted by Jeff Higgins
Yes, hopefully we have learned something from all of this. It would be nice to be able to set partisian politics asside for just a moment and determine just what it might be that we can learn. We have become so polarized in this country that I often wonder if it is even possible anymore to have a calm, objective debate over an issue of this importance. I kind of boubt it.
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One can only hope.