rrpjr, I will hook up w/ you at the anti-war protest if you like and gladly have a pleasant conversation. I am not down w/ angry, stupid sloganeering, or being disrespectful to members of the military, and if I see it I will stand up to that no matter what their numbers. I have not seen the things that you describe, but still I'm not doubting you. There are plenty of respectful people who are dead against this war, but not against troops. I will prove this to you by my example if we see anyone attacking service members in any way. What do you say?